This episode finishes up the discussion of the eviyl fool and describes the salient characteristics of the kesil fool, the third level fool. Both the simple minded fool (pethey) and the eviyl fool are reachable. Though the eviyl fool is quarrelsome and close-minded, he hasn’t “graduated” to full blown wickedness. The best strategy to reach the eviyl fool is dialogue that takes the winner/loser dynamic completely off the table. Eviyl fools want to be right all the time, so what would happen if they met a believer who doesn’t contradict them, but humbly acknowledges that he is a wayward soul, always in need of correction? When believers communicate that they are often “wrong” based on God’s standard, the only one that really matters, they are essentially tilling the soil of the eviyl’s mind, where seeds of correction might germinate. The latter part of the program introduces the “kesil” fool, who, adds wickedness and deceit to the fool package, for “the mind of fools (“kesilim”) is in the house of pleasure.”